LIBYA BEFORE AND AFTER NATO
The TRUTH about LIBYA
BEFORE
Colonel Gaddafi was well-liked and supported by most Libyans before his overthrow fueled by E.U. central banks and the Fed Reserve powers. His mistake was proposing a gold-backed African currency to be used within the African Union members. The people of Libya had their education paid for by the state through college and enjoyed free healthcare. Gaddafi, for his faults, was minding his own business.
Then the IMF, BIS and World Bank decided one day that they needed access to his oil profits, and to also thwart Gaddafi's attempt to establish the aforementioned, gold-backed currency. So, they made up some 'human rights' charges, and tied him to terrorism. The bankers called up Obama and told him to send in U.S. planes to support a NATO invasion. The CIA, Mossad and MI6 trained, financed and supplied Muslim extremist groups to attack on the ground. Within days of Gaddafi's execution on the battlefield there was a Rothschild-backed, E.U. central bank set up in Tarabulus.
Gaddafi being Sodomized
Libya's oil supply to Europe was increased, and oil companies from that continent went after the proceeds. Everything I have written is true. Do your own research and especially pull up articles written about Gaddafi by Libyans and fellow Africans.
AFTER
The West is silent as Libya falls into the abyss
World View: In 2011, there was jubilation at Gaddafi's demise. Not any more: the aftermath of foreign intervention is calamitous and bloody
Remember the time when Libya was being held up by the American, British, French and Qatari governments as a striking example of benign and successful foreign intervention? It is worth looking again at film of David Cameron grandstanding as liberator in Benghazi in September 2011 as he applauds the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi and tells the crowd that "your city was an example to the world as you threw off a dictator and chose freedom".
Mr Cameron has not been back to Benghazi, nor is he likely to do so as warring militias reduce Libya to primal anarchy in which nobody is safe. The majority of Libyans are demonstrably worse off today than they were under Gaddafi, notwithstanding his personality cult and authoritarian rule. The slaughter is getting worse by the month and is engulfing the entire country.
"Your friends in Britain and France will stand with you as you build your democracy," pledged Mr Cameron to the people of Benghazi. Three years later, they are words he evidently wants to forget, since there was almost no reference to Libya, the one military intervention he had previously ordered, when he spoke in the House of Commons justifying British airstrikes against Islamic State (Isis) in Iraq.
The foreign media has largely ceased to cover Libya because it rightly believes it is too dangerous for journalists to go there. Yet I remember a moment in the early summer of 2011 in the frontline south of Benghazi when there were more reporters and camera crews present than there were rebel militiamen. Cameramen used to ask fellow foreign journalists to move aside when they were filming so that this did not become too apparent. In reality, Gaddafi's overthrow was very much Nato's doing, with Libyan militiamen mopping up.
Human rights organisations have had a much better record in Libya than the media since the start of the uprising in 2011. They discovered that there was no evidence for several highly publicised atrocities supposedly carried out by Gaddafi's forces that were used to fuel popular support for the air war in the US, Britain, France and elsewhere. These included the story of the mass rape of women by Gaddafi's troops that Amnesty International exposed as being without foundation. The uniformed bodies of government soldiers were described by rebel spokesmen as being men shot because they were about to defect to the opposition. Video film showed the soldiers still alive as rebel prisoners so it must have been the rebels who had executed them and put the blame on the government.
Foreign governments and media alike have good reason to forget what they said and did in Libya in 2011, because the aftermath of the overthrow of Gaddafi has been so appalling. The extent of the calamity is made clear by two reports on the present state of the country, one by Amnesty International called "Libya: Rule of the gun – abductions, torture and other militia abuses in western Libya" and a second by Human Rights Watch, focusing on the east of the country, called "Libya: Assassinations May Be Crimes Against Humanity".
The latter is a gruesome but fascinating account of what people in Benghazi call "Black Friday," which occurred on 19 September this year, the most deadly day in a three-day assassination spree in the city, in which "the dead included two young activists, members of the security services, an outspoken cleric and five other civilians". The activists were Tawfiq Bensaud and Sami Elkawafi, two men aged 18 and 19, who had campaigned and demonstrated against militia violence. Among others who died was a prominent cleric, Seikh Nabil Sati, who was murdered, as well as a young man, Abdulrahman al-Mogherbi, who was kidnapped at the cleric's funeral and later found dead.
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Their murders brought to 250 the number of victims of politically motivated killings this year in Benghazi and Derna, the major cities in eastern Libya. This is not counting the far larger number who have died in military operations between the different militias or the battles that have raged in and around Tripoli.
Without the rest of the world paying much attention, a civil war has been raging in western Libya since 13 July between the Libya Dawn coalition of militias, originally based in Misrata, and another militia group centered on Zintan. A largely separate civil war between the forces of retired General Khalifa Haftar and the Shura Council of Benghazi Revolutionaries is being fought out in the city. Government has collapsed. Amnesty says that torture has become commonplace with victims being "beaten with plastic tubes, sticks, metal bars or cables, given electric shocks, suspended in stress positions for hours, kept blindfolded and shackled for days."
It is easy enough to deride the neo-imperial posturing of David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy, or to describe the abyss into which Libya has fallen since 2011. The people whom that intervention propelled into power have reduced a country that had been peaceful for more than half a century to a level of violence that is beginning to approach that of Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Whatever Western intentions, the result has been a disaster. In Libya, as in Syria today, Western intervention was supposedly in support of democracy, but was conducted in alliance with the Sunni absolute monarchies of the Gulf who had no such aims.
The temptation is to say that foreign intervention invariably brings catastrophe to the country intervened in. But this is not quite true: US air strikes in defence of the Syrian Kurds at Kobani and the Iraqi Kurds in their capital Erbil are justifiable and prevent massacres by Isis. But the drawback is that foreign intervention is always in the interests of the country intervening. These may, for a time, coincide with the real interests of the country where the foreign intervention is taking place, but this seldom lasts very long.
This is the lesson of recent foreign interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. Most Afghans wanted the Taliban out in 2001 but they did not want the warlords back, something the Americans found acceptable. The US would fight the Taliban, but not confront the movement's sponsors in Pakistan, thereby dooming Afghanistan to endless war. In Iraq in 2003, many Iraqis welcomed the US-led invasion because they wanted the end of Saddam Hussein's rule, but they did not want a foreign occupation. The Americans did not want the fall of Saddam to benefit Iran, so they needed to occupy the country and install their own nominees in power.
In all three cases cited above, the West intervened in somebody else's civil war and tried to dictate who won. There was a pretense that the Taliban, Saddam, Gaddafi or Assad were demonically evil and without any true supporters. This foreign support may give victory to one party in a civil war, as in Libya, which they could not win by relying on their own strength. In Iraq, the beleaguered Sunni could not fight a US-backed Shia government so it needed to bring in al-Qaeda. Thus the conditions were created that eventually produced Isis.
This Is The NEW FREE DEMOCRATIC LIBYA, RAPE, TORTURE, CUTTING OF PARTS OF BODIES, EXECUTING WITHOUT TRIAL! WHERE IS THE DEMOCRACY?
1.This is a Pal-Talk conversation in which a Green ex prisoner in the Barbarian jails of Misurata rats is revealing of what happened to him and to some of his colleagues, so in this conversation there are three main people: First is the … Person who hosts and presents the Ex Prisoner his Nickname is (Maadani) the Ex Prisoner plus the intervention from Dr. Hamza Al Tuhami.
Maddani I will let you hear this man who has just got out from the prison of Misurata after they cut off his right leg and left hand. Each of his friends, family and loved ones have paid 120,000 Dinars as a ransom so as to get him out of Misurata prison and now he is going to tell you his full story come on our hero the time is yours now to speak.
THE EX-PRISONER: BISMI ALLAH (in the name of ALLAH) and Salam Alaykoum. I am going to tell you my story in brief if you do not mind but first of all I want to say that concerning my colleagues in that jail I mean those who were militants in that HORRIFIC jail they made me promise that I would tell everything what’s happening there and for me, I could not believe that I would get out from that hell without the help of ALLAH first and then from my beloved ones which they also insisted on me to speak up in what is really happening inside those jails and I accepted to appear even on a TV channel to tell these facts. I swear that they are indescribable things, they are beyond human fiction, things that one can not believe or imagine there are some brutal violations, raping and here I mean raping guys and I can tell you even their names, there was one called ALI EL ATTI this man you can ask anyone about him in MISURATA because he was captured there and I swear by ALLAH SUBHANAH that they COOKED him in a big COOKER and there were two other officers their names are EL ZUBAIDY and EL GHASHIKA were HANGED NUDE FROM THEIR HANDS without any clothes on them and I can not tell you what they did to them (IMMORAL THINGS) and ask about them all this in addition to rape torture and cutting hands and legs and there was a man I can not say his name he belonged to El Gadadfa tribe and lived in Misurata. He had a PRIVATE problem with a local family BEFORE the events took place just ask people there about him because anyone there knows about him after he was jailed members of that MISURATI FAMILY PAID the MILITIA and TOOK him to THEIR house as if they TOOK a GOAT and they SLAUGHTERED him and CUT him to pieces so look what they did to that guy who had a Shahma because anyone who knows that family they also knows their argument with this poor guy and I know very well his brothers but I do not want to mention their names so they can not get hurt because they were my jail mates.
Concerning what happened to us, I think I should congratulate the free soldiers who martyred in the battlefields and I wished if I had died 10 thousands times than passing one moment in that jail.The things that they do in the MISURAT JAIL they don’t do even in Israel. Something's that I will tell you only few of them and as for the names they are so many so I can not remember all of them because I want to give each one’s name and what they did to him.
For me I was injured about three days or four before they captured me and during the fighting while I got injured, me and another colleague whose name is ALI EL MAARRAF whom I think he was martyred and the HERO HAMZA. So our group did not let us down, we told them to leave us because we will slow them down, at least they will live but they refused and took us with them in their pick up car because there were no medics and the only clinic that was in the district was number 2 which was destroyed. After we got defeated and captured I didn’t know anything about my injured colleague and they told me that he was martyred and then when they took me to Misurata I thought they did that because of my injury and they would have sympathy towards me. It is true that during the events we heard of some crimes about slaughtering and killing however I swear by the GREAT ALLAH that what I saw there its more than WHAT you are hearing and more than what its happening so when I got there and started telling these things to people some of them could not believe me and they told me that I’m exaggerating! A simple example is that guy from Tawerga his name is ALI EL ATTI I swear by ALLAH SUBHANAH that they COOKED him in a big COOKER and if you do not believe me ask the people of Tawerga about that name and they will tell you his story and the guys there were recommending me to tell you about the RAPING that there doing to us. YES guys they are raping us and I do not want to tell you the names of the Heroes so not to get them embarrassed and those thugs they were treating us like cattle any moment someone comes and chooses any prisoner maybe randomly and takes him to an unknown place and after that moment we wouldn’t hear any news about him and I remember that there is a summer resort called Jannat (means Heaven) because any prisoner who was taken there was considered doomed. As soon as they knew that a Human Rights committee or any other International Org is to visit their jails, they would come and collect those handicapped prisoners like me and put to another area and force the others to wear a new sportive pajamas and give them new blankets so that everything could appear like a five star hotel prison to those committee or org. They were threatening us to tell the truth so we felt that we were not anymore men in fact what really was getting on my nerves is that bunch of thugs who were torturing us are not real men but what were we going to do? We were not afraid but we really HUMILIATED by these thugs we were not afraid of them but they exhausted us and for me they did something that made me think that I would never leave but SUBHAN ALLAH life are in the hands of ALLAH SUBHANAH because my colleagues who were not handicapped were martyred whereas and thanks to ALLAH SUBHANAH I remained alive but only in name.
Maadani: Yes of course some of his body parts do not exist his right leg and left arm.
The ex-Prisoner: Yes concerning our convoy after they capture us they started executing us and thanks to ALLAH once again I could not believe how I survived, things were like the coin toss and I remember a brave guy whom they shot, his name was HISHAM SAAIBA from SIRTE exactly in the district number 2 and he belonged in the Warfalla tribes may ALLAH Subhanah bless his soul. Another one whose story was so strange, which made me so overwhelmed. Its true that every Mujahid has a sympathetic story but this man has a special and emotional story, his name is MUNIR and he is from Zlitan, ask about him anyone who fought in the district number 2. All members of his family were killed in Zlitan, after that he came to Sirte and started fighting with us in the district number 2 after telling us his sad story swearing to be faithful to his family, he remained fighting with a brave heart until he got caught and executed by these filthy thugs may ALLAH bless his soul his name is Munir from Zlitan but I do not remember the rest of his name so I address to the people of Zlitan to refresh their memory if they know him he came to us after Zlitan had fallen.
Besides anyone no matter who he is: a drug addict, an alcoholic, a rapist, a thieve, a criminal, whatever his crime is after PAYING A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY HE WILL BE SET FREE!!!!
Maadani: How much did you pay our Hero?
The ex-Prisoner: In fact some people from Sirte put up the money may ALLAH Subhanah protect them they are you guys who paid 120 thousand Dinars and set me free. Truly speaking I could not believe it when they told me that I would leave because my Friends paid for me! As what I have seen there, what these thugs do they are not humans at all and as for the guys who paid for me May ALLAH Subhanah bless them all as I do not think even my family could pay such a big amount for my freedom and INSHALLAH I will return the favor.
Ok I do not want to take so much of your time, INSHALLAH another time I will tell you more details.
Maadani: Sorry guys but our Hero has got tired because of his critical situation, he can not sit and speak, I see him struggling only to sit as any other ordinary man and this is because he has lost some body parts may ALLAH be with him.
Dr. Hamza: Listen to me Maadani Listen I am Dr. Hamza
Maadani: Welcome Dr. Hamza
Dr. Hamza: You have to record this man’s speech and anyone who knows English must translate this speech and then publish it in English version for all human rights organizations websites and to the world press so all can see what happened to him because this man is an eyewitness, now let him get some rest and after that bring him to that pal-talk room to speak in private with a person who knows English and after the translation publish it in all human rights org websites and in the Green forums of Zangetna and in our pages of twitter and Facebook etc…. I know that some guys are now recording the man’s testimony but I want you Maadani to take him to rest now and after that bring him to speak in details so that others can record every word he says and some of our free people can translate these words to each foreign language like English and French and then your sister Watanna will take it over for the rest of the work so enter with her into the private chat and give her all names and facts and addresses so she can do her job because of her relationships with some of the organizations ok?
The ex-Prisoner: Yes that’s it. I a private chat because if I gave some names no one knows what will happen to their people if they would see them again or not. I am really worried about them.
Dr. Hamza: So go to your sister through the private chat and tell her everything.
The ex-Prisoner: Ok I will give her all the names because I am afraid if someone is listening now to us and knows the names, then they will be in danger. So I don’t want to be the cause of their doom, besides I want to remind you the story from Sirte, I do want to bring the rest of the events of Sirte on the day before they occupied Ibn Sina hospital and then the radio station in which we were fighting, while we were there some of the heroes got to the Mathaba district because it was destroyed and empty of people they found a free girl who was struggling there SHE was a GREAT HEROINE. I think she belongs to AL GUHUS (the best of EL GADADFA Tribes) but I am not sure. Our heroes brought her to us they told us that they found her alone with her weapon in the Mathaba they told her to take her to her family but she refused insisting to sit and fight with us. I swear by Allah Subhanah that she was fighting with us with a very brave heart, we then went to the Radio station and we remained in that building, we were afraid from getting surrounded with her, the man who brought her to us told me that he was afraid something wrong would happen to her because he felt that she was a big responsibility for him (this is the Libyan respectful way for women). So we told her to stay in the back of us exactly near to the exit in case we got surrounded.
Maadani: Is she from El Guhus??
The ex-Prisoner: I think so, she stayed, we left the radio station trying to disturb the enemies attention. Later on we found another group of us that was far so we could not connect with them because of the fire shooting intensity, somehow we manged to go to them and ask them about that girl to ensure about her safety. They told us that a bomb shell had fallen on her place and since Ibn Sina Hospital was destroyed there remained only the complex of health to which we hurried but we did not find her until we got to a field clinic in which we found her wounded and a nurse and her brother were attending to her. A man came and told us that she is her relative and she is in under his control now, since then we have not heard anything about her. The Hero who brought her was one of my prison mates and he was the one who recommended me about her, in fact there are some brave families who remained in some struggling districts in Sirte and did not leave at all. I appreciate their courage.
Maadani: Could you please tell us the story of that poor HERO called MUAMMAR who was caught in Misurata.
The ex-Prisoner: Yes, this is the man I did not want to mention his name but….. anyway there is a person called Muammar whose jailed in Al Wahda (the Union) high school because OF HIS NAME, THEY CUT OFF SOME OF HIS ORGANS that I could mention (maybe his penis)
Maadani: They cut his tongue too??
The ex-Prisoner: So may ALLAH look after him and give him salvation, he is actually a prisoner in Al Wahda high school and since his name is MUAMMER he is getting the extra special Best Treatment(Misurata RACIST BRIGADE) can offer. With all my respect and dignity to you the man can not go to the bathroom by himself, only his healthy mates who carry him to and from his name is Muammer, I pray to ALLAH Subhanah to look after him, also in prison with him is his brother.
Finally I do not want to speak longer, I want you to bear in your mind before the Resistance or any other thing the problems and the sufferings of our heroes in these monstrous jails and because there are some things that are beyond anyone’s imagination as Dr. Hamza said I will give the details and names through private chatting INSHALLAH.
Maadani: Tell them the poem that you composed yesterday.
The ex-Prisoner: Yes there are some words which crossed my mind during my jail, because I am one of the leader’s beloved and I congratulate anyone who stood with him before after and during these events especially General Abu Baker Yuness Jaber, who was in Al Jufra and after it had fallen he could have escaped from there but he preferred to come to Sirte beside the leader which made some people to ask him with a stunned mind why he came to Sirte while he could have run away through the south to another country. Ok I am going to recite my poem which I composed arbitrarily with my friends in jail with some other poems which i wrote them down in my agenda with some information’s that I will show them to you very soon and he started reciting his poem.
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